Comments on: Stirring the Pot: Do You Preach the Superscriptions of the Psalms? http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/ By Russell D. Moore. Russell D. Moore serves as the teaching pastor at Highview Baptist Church in Louisville, Ky. In addition, Dr. Moore is the Dean of the School of Theology and Senior Vice President for Academic Administration at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Find sermons and other resources to help Christians engage the culture from a biblical worldview at www.russellmoore.com. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:57:44 +0000 By: Do You Preach the Superscriptions of the Psalms | For His Renown http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-119904 Do You Preach the Superscriptions of the Psalms | For His Renown Mon, 09 May 2011 16:50:47 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-119904 [...] note: this post originally appeared as a guest post on Moore to the Point. Share this:FacebookEmailPrintShareDiggRedditStumbleUpon ← Are You [...] [...] note: this post originally appeared as a guest post on Moore to the Point. Share this:FacebookEmailPrintShareDiggRedditStumbleUpon ← Are You [...]

]]> By: The Superscriptions in the Psalms « Ad Fontes http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-80976 The Superscriptions in the Psalms « Ad Fontes Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:13:39 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-80976 [...] Also see Jim Hamilton’s post on why you should preach the superscriptions. [...] [...] Also see Jim Hamilton’s post on why you should preach the superscriptions. [...]

]]> By: Hamilton Stirring the Pot « The Road To Emmaus http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-58957 Hamilton Stirring the Pot « The Road To Emmaus Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:38:17 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-58957 [...] Stirring the Pot: Do You Preach the Superscriptions of the Psalms? [...] [...] Stirring the Pot: Do You Preach the Superscriptions of the Psalms? [...]

]]> By: Preaching the Superscriptions of the Psalms? by Jim Hamiliton « SATSUNG http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-281 Preaching the Superscriptions of the Psalms? by Jim Hamiliton « SATSUNG Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:35:08 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-281 [...] Preaching the Superscriptions of the Psalms? by Jim Hamiliton http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-... [...] [...] Preaching the Superscriptions of the Psalms? by Jim Hamiliton http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-... [...]

]]> By: Dr. Jim Hamilton http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-280 Dr. Jim Hamilton Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:05:07 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-280 Pete, I think we have a clearly defined canon of 66 books that were recognized by the church to be inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore inerrant. Blessings! JMH Pete,

I think we have a clearly defined canon of 66 books that were recognized by the church to be inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore inerrant.

Blessings!

JMH

]]> By: Pete http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-279 Pete Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:45:02 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-279 more embarrassing doing it twice I meant "others" instead of "other's" and "other" more embarrassing doing it twice I meant “others” instead of “other’s” and “other”

]]> By: Pete http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-278 Pete Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:44:16 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-278 ew, typo--that's embarrassing "other's" instead of "other" ew, typo–that’s embarrassing “other’s” instead of “other”

]]> By: Pete http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-277 Pete Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:40:36 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-277 Thanks for continuing to respond to my comments. That actually wasn't the answer I was expecting. I was expecting more of a Sproulian answer like, a belief in a fallible canon of infallible OT books (though I could be completely out to lunch using the phrase "fallible canon of infallible books" since I've never read RC Sproul write that, just other's attribute it to him). So, does your view of the OT canon impact your theory of the canon of the whole Bible? Do you think that we have an infallible canon? It's neat talking about canon with you after you posted a month ago on <a href="http://jimhamilton.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/g-k-beale-on-biblical-inerrancy-the-crossway-lecture-and-an-important-new-book/" rel="nofollow">Beale's view of inerrancy</a> since I think that canon and inerrancy have some similar overtones. Thanks for continuing to respond to my comments.

That actually wasn’t the answer I was expecting. I was expecting more of a Sproulian answer like, a belief in a fallible canon of infallible OT books (though I could be completely out to lunch using the phrase “fallible canon of infallible books” since I’ve never read RC Sproul write that, just other’s attribute it to him).

So, does your view of the OT canon impact your theory of the canon of the whole Bible? Do you think that we have an infallible canon?

It’s neat talking about canon with you after you posted a month ago on Beale’s view of inerrancy since I think that canon and inerrancy have some similar overtones.

]]> By: Dr. Jim Hamilton http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-276 Dr. Jim Hamilton Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:32:13 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-276 If you mean "canon," the answer is yes. If you mean "the order of the books of the canon," the answer has to be no. . . not least b/c it probably wasn't possible to bind all the books of the OT together until the rise of the codex in the early centuries AD. What they had before that was most likely a list. I think the order of the books on that list was probably significant, but what was on the list and what wasn't was the real issue. Great question! JMH If you mean “canon,” the answer is yes. If you mean “the order of the books of the canon,” the answer has to be no. . . not least b/c it probably wasn’t possible to bind all the books of the OT together until the rise of the codex in the early centuries AD.

What they had before that was most likely a list. I think the order of the books on that list was probably significant, but what was on the list and what wasn’t was the real issue.

Great question!

JMH

]]> By: Pete http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-275 Pete Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:05:50 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-275 Do you think that the canon of the OT is authoritative in the same way as that of the Psalter is? Do you think that the canon of the OT is authoritative in the same way as that of the Psalter is?

]]> By: Joe http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-274 Joe Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:10:16 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-274 Once last year when teaching Psalm 1 I commented on its lack of a superscription and a lively discussion followed with the men of my senior adult Sunday school class: "You mean David didn't write all of the Psalms?" Even when I had a man read Psalm 90, "A prayer of Moses, the man of God," I was told, "That's just David writing about Moses!" Sunday should be interesting. Psalm 42 is attributed to the "Sons of Korah." Great topic. Once last year when teaching Psalm 1 I commented on its lack of a superscription and a lively discussion followed with the men of my senior adult Sunday school class: “You mean David didn’t write all of the Psalms?” Even when I had a man read Psalm 90, “A prayer of Moses, the man of God,” I was told, “That’s just David writing about Moses!”

Sunday should be interesting. Psalm 42 is attributed to the “Sons of Korah.”

Great topic.

]]> By: Dr. Jim Hamilton http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-273 Dr. Jim Hamilton Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:57:23 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-273 I think the whole book is inspired, superscriptions and all, and I think that it was arranged by a prophet who would have been recognized as inspired . . . Blessings! JMH I think the whole book is inspired, superscriptions and all, and I think that it was arranged by a prophet who would have been recognized as inspired . . .

Blessings!

JMH

]]> By: Pete http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-272 Pete Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:12:45 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-272 Do you think that the Psalter as a whole is inspired, or that only the individual Psalms, by the original artists (e.g., David, Solomon, etc.), are inspired? Obviously no one would deny the latter, but would anyone hold to the latter at the exclusion of the former? If it's the latter, then the superscriptions wouldn't necessarily, and probably wouldn't, be inspired. I guess that you would argue that the Psalter's inspired because the Jewish tradition honoured the document as a whole (as the text critical evidence would suggest). Do you think that the Psalter as a whole is inspired, or that only the individual Psalms, by the original artists (e.g., David, Solomon, etc.), are inspired? Obviously no one would deny the latter, but would anyone hold to the latter at the exclusion of the former? If it’s the latter, then the superscriptions wouldn’t necessarily, and probably wouldn’t, be inspired.

I guess that you would argue that the Psalter’s inspired because the Jewish tradition honoured the document as a whole (as the text critical evidence would suggest).

]]> By: Michael Moore http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-271 Michael Moore Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:10:44 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-271 Very good stir in the pot, indeed! I have not used the superscriptions much in preaching, maybe only as a reference when preaching on Psalm 51. However, I have noticed that Spurgeon did use the superscripts in many of his sermons from the Psalms as did many of our predecessors. They do offer a lot of insight into the psalm itself and give some valuable background information. Thank you for your insight. Many preachers might be like myself, ignorant of the background of the superscriptions. I had assumed since they were printed in italics in most of the Bibles I have read, they were not part of the inspired writ, but were added by translators for clarity. Thank you for clearing that up. Very good stir in the pot, indeed! I have not used the superscriptions much in preaching, maybe only as a reference when preaching on Psalm 51. However, I have noticed that Spurgeon did use the superscripts in many of his sermons from the Psalms as did many of our predecessors. They do offer a lot of insight into the psalm itself and give some valuable background information. Thank you for your insight. Many preachers might be like myself, ignorant of the background of the superscriptions. I had assumed since they were printed in italics in most of the Bibles I have read, they were not part of the inspired writ, but were added by translators for clarity. Thank you for clearing that up.

]]> By: Fay Clark http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-270 Fay Clark Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:44:06 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-270 Interesting you should mention it. Christianity.com has the ESV version posted without the superscriptions--something I might not have noticed if you not drawn our attention to them. I find myself missing that bit of context and wishing the website had not omitted them. Interesting you should mention it. Christianity.com has the ESV version posted without the superscriptions–something I might not have noticed if you not drawn our attention to them. I find myself missing that bit of context and wishing the website had not omitted them.

]]> By: Dr. Jim Hamilton http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-269 Dr. Jim Hamilton Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:33:04 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-269 Charles, Thanks for your note. Yes. I think that labelling the Psalms with these kinds of terms takes us away from the categories that the Psalter has given to us. . . In my view, the whole of the Psalter has a royal character, associated as it is with David and his life, and if by "wisdom" we mean something like "Torah-focused," then the Psalter is also punctuated by key statements of the gift of Torah--Pss 1, 19, and 119, for instance. Within this, I think the 5 books tell a story . . . hopefully I'll have more to say on that story soon in my book on the Center of Biblical Theology. Hope this helps! JMH Charles,

Thanks for your note. Yes. I think that labelling the Psalms with these kinds of terms takes us away from the categories that the Psalter has given to us. . . In my view, the whole of the Psalter has a royal character, associated as it is with David and his life, and if by “wisdom” we mean something like “Torah-focused,” then the Psalter is also punctuated by key statements of the gift of Torah–Pss 1, 19, and 119, for instance. Within this, I think the 5 books tell a story . . . hopefully I’ll have more to say on that story soon in my book on the Center of Biblical Theology.

Hope this helps!

JMH

]]> By: Charles http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-268 Charles Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:33:54 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-268 What do you mean buy "genres." Are you talking about forms such as lament, praise, or types such as wisdom, royal, etc.? What do you mean buy “genres.” Are you talking about forms such as lament, praise, or types such as wisdom, royal, etc.?

]]> By: OD Today: 5 January 2009 (late edition) « Online Discernment Today http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/01/05/stirring-the-pot-do-you-preach-the-superscriptions-of-the-psalms/#comment-267 OD Today: 5 January 2009 (late edition) « Online Discernment Today Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:46:31 +0000 http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=1681#comment-267 [...] Hamilton calls on preachers to preach the superscriptions to the Psalms. “the choice to ignore the superscriptions of the [...] [...] Hamilton calls on preachers to preach the superscriptions to the Psalms. “the choice to ignore the superscriptions of the [...]

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