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	<title>Comments on: Should I Give to Starving Kids If the Cash Is Going to Terrorists?</title>
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	<description>By Russell D. Moore. Russell D. Moore serves as the teaching pastor at Highview Baptist Church in Louisville, Ky. In addition, Dr. Moore is the Dean of the School of Theology and Senior Vice President for Academic Administration at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Find sermons and other resources to help Christians engage the culture from a biblical worldview at www.russellmoore.com.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joshua O., Though it certainly would be difficult, why do you assume it is impossible? Should the difficulty of the situation impact our responsibility to do it, or should the difficulty impact the intensity of our clinging to the power and universal authority of Christ in this situation? I'm not for "fighting" the Taliban in the name of Christ, but I do think it is a responsible obligation to do what is in our power to remove these boys from the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joshua O., Though it certainly would be difficult, why do you assume it is impossible? Should the difficulty of the situation impact our responsibility to do it, or should the difficulty impact the intensity of our clinging to the power and universal authority of Christ in this situation? I&#8217;m not for &#8220;fighting&#8221; the Taliban in the name of Christ, but I do think it is a responsible obligation to do what is in our power to remove these boys from the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Will, That's why I suggested removing the boys from the situation (i.e. kidnapping them). I'm not sure why Josh O. suggests this is an impossible option. Difficult, absolutely, but so is sharing the gospel with a pagan nation. It seems that simply giving them money or not giving them money (or even food) does not do justice to our call to minister to the poor and oppressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Will, That&#8217;s why I suggested removing the boys from the situation (i.e. kidnapping them). I&#8217;m not sure why Josh O. suggests this is an impossible option. Difficult, absolutely, but so is sharing the gospel with a pagan nation. It seems that simply giving them money or not giving them money (or even food) does not do justice to our call to minister to the poor and oppressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted “No” in the poll, and I do so for several reasons. To preface those remarks, however, it is obvious that the missionaries are in a tough situation, and my opinions are just that: opinions, since I am not in that scenario.
First, while we are instructed to love our enemies, we must have a correct definition of “love”. Love is not willy-nilly indiscriminate giving of material goods. Rather, God’s love, the love the Bible describes, can be defined as giving oneself even unto death for the spiritual well-being of another human. With that definition in mind, funneling resources to appease the blood-lusts of terrorists helps no one in anyway. Growing terrorism doesn’t draw the terrorists closer to Jesus Christ. If it did, I’d be all for funding them! Funding terrorism is not showing love, and if we have not love, isn’t it all for nought? So while we may be “caring” (in some strange sense of the word), we are not really loving.
Second, as Americans, we are obligated to loyalty of our nation. The current political situation of our nation aside, we are not to encourage the destruction of our own nation. That would be “aiding and abetting terrorism”, a breach in national loyalty. Provided, we’re not to follow blindly the will of Washington, but that is not what I am suggesting. All I am saying is that as citizens of the United States, we are to love our nation.
Third, we are not doing the kids any favor either. This goes back to the above definition of love. Helping them aid terrorists is not love.
Others have already voiced their wish that the missionaries could simply remove the children from that horrid situation. Would that they could! However, I will assume that such acts are impossible, and could even lead to worse punishment and even death. In some ways, this seems to be out of the missionaries’ hands. If this is international terrorism that they’re dealing with, unfortunately, there is not much that can be done. As just a 15-year-old, I’m utterly unqualified to offer suggestions to the missionaries. Further, I know very little of the situation. Can the US Embassy be contacted? How armed are the terrorists? What kind of stand can the missionaries make? These questions remain wide-open, and, depending on their answers, change my position.
As per the boys, it seems that giving them money helps them not at all. Remember the movies where the bad guys have the hostage? The bad guys always threaten to do something horrific to someone the hostage loves. More often than not, the hostage finally gives in (see Star Trek for just one example), thinking to have done a noble deed. Yet as soon as the bad guys are confident of the information, they proceed to do exactly what they’d threatened. I always groan at such scenarios—I know what the hostage will do, I and I know what the bad guys will do. The point is this: bad guys are bad guys. You can’t bargain with them. They feign sincerity at the parley table one day, and the next day are back to war. In this case, they’ll beat the boys if they don’t bring back money, and if they do, they may very well beat them anyway! And at any rate, there’s precious little chance that they’ll look on at some industrious little kid, be moved with compassion, and release him. The wicked are never satisfied, so why would we assume such in this case?
Just some thoughts. Joshua Owens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted “No” in the poll, and I do so for several reasons. To preface those remarks, however, it is obvious that the missionaries are in a tough situation, and my opinions are just that: opinions, since I am not in that scenario.<br />
First, while we are instructed to love our enemies, we must have a correct definition of “love”. Love is not willy-nilly indiscriminate giving of material goods. Rather, God’s love, the love the Bible describes, can be defined as giving oneself even unto death for the spiritual well-being of another human. With that definition in mind, funneling resources to appease the blood-lusts of terrorists helps no one in anyway. Growing terrorism doesn’t draw the terrorists closer to Jesus Christ. If it did, I’d be all for funding them! Funding terrorism is not showing love, and if we have not love, isn’t it all for nought? So while we may be “caring” (in some strange sense of the word), we are not really loving.<br />
Second, as Americans, we are obligated to loyalty of our nation. The current political situation of our nation aside, we are not to encourage the destruction of our own nation. That would be “aiding and abetting terrorism”, a breach in national loyalty. Provided, we’re not to follow blindly the will of Washington, but that is not what I am suggesting. All I am saying is that as citizens of the United States, we are to love our nation.<br />
Third, we are not doing the kids any favor either. This goes back to the above definition of love. Helping them aid terrorists is not love.<br />
Others have already voiced their wish that the missionaries could simply remove the children from that horrid situation. Would that they could! However, I will assume that such acts are impossible, and could even lead to worse punishment and even death. In some ways, this seems to be out of the missionaries’ hands. If this is international terrorism that they’re dealing with, unfortunately, there is not much that can be done. As just a 15-year-old, I’m utterly unqualified to offer suggestions to the missionaries. Further, I know very little of the situation. Can the US Embassy be contacted? How armed are the terrorists? What kind of stand can the missionaries make? These questions remain wide-open, and, depending on their answers, change my position.<br />
As per the boys, it seems that giving them money helps them not at all. Remember the movies where the bad guys have the hostage? The bad guys always threaten to do something horrific to someone the hostage loves. More often than not, the hostage finally gives in (see Star Trek for just one example), thinking to have done a noble deed. Yet as soon as the bad guys are confident of the information, they proceed to do exactly what they’d threatened. I always groan at such scenarios—I know what the hostage will do, I and I know what the bad guys will do. The point is this: bad guys are bad guys. You can’t bargain with them. They feign sincerity at the parley table one day, and the next day are back to war. In this case, they’ll beat the boys if they don’t bring back money, and if they do, they may very well beat them anyway! And at any rate, there’s precious little chance that they’ll look on at some industrious little kid, be moved with compassion, and release him. The wicked are never satisfied, so why would we assume such in this case?<br />
Just some thoughts. Joshua Owens</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/11/23/should-i-give-to-starving-kids-if-the-cash-is-going-to-terrorists/#comment-5332</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jordan Buckley, huh imagine the answer found plainly in Scripture</description>
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		<title>By: Destiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Sean has a good point.

My husband and I are living in India right now and face a similar dilemma. Handlers and/or parents often maim children in an effort to use them to gain money. The church we attend has recommended that we give food instead of money. Giving money only encourages the system. More children will be maimed or tortured if those in charge know they can get money through this avenue. Instead, the church has come up with ways to reach out to the poor on the street. Money from the church helps to feed the lepers/beggars on the street. Through these outreaches, they are also preaching the gospel. Obviously West Africa is different than India, but the premise is the same. Giving money only encourages those who are torturing to take more boys/children for their evil gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sean has a good point.</p>
<p>My husband and I are living in India right now and face a similar dilemma. Handlers and/or parents often maim children in an effort to use them to gain money. The church we attend has recommended that we give food instead of money. Giving money only encourages the system. More children will be maimed or tortured if those in charge know they can get money through this avenue. Instead, the church has come up with ways to reach out to the poor on the street. Money from the church helps to feed the lepers/beggars on the street. Through these outreaches, they are also preaching the gospel. Obviously West Africa is different than India, but the premise is the same. Giving money only encourages those who are torturing to take more boys/children for their evil gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In scanning through the comments left here I have seen a running trend of fear that if the children are given money and return to the imams they will be raised and trained as terrorists.  But just to throw a wrench in this thought, what about the children that return with no money?  They then grow up being reminded of how the Christians they begged were able to refuse them knowing their plight.  Won't the imams then use this to fuel a fire of hatred against Christians. Which is worse?  A child raised to be a terrorist with memories of compassionate Christians or a child raised to be a terrorist with a reason to hate Christians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In scanning through the comments left here I have seen a running trend of fear that if the children are given money and return to the imams they will be raised and trained as terrorists.  But just to throw a wrench in this thought, what about the children that return with no money?  They then grow up being reminded of how the Christians they begged were able to refuse them knowing their plight.  Won&#8217;t the imams then use this to fuel a fire of hatred against Christians. Which is worse?  A child raised to be a terrorist with memories of compassionate Christians or a child raised to be a terrorist with a reason to hate Christians?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people think that giving money to evil people will stop evil?  The boys are going to be abused if they collect money or not.  They ARE being abused just being on the street forced to beg.  They are being exploited.  Giving them money exploits these children further.  

There ARE other options to help these children.  I don't know the situation, but there are always options to help exploited children.  Usually the problem is that the ones who can help the children do not want to take the time, energy, money or the risk to their reputations/lives to do it.

Fatherless children are God's children and if we seek him in prayer, he can show us how to genuinely help them and show them his love.

Giving them money is NOT showing them God's love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people think that giving money to evil people will stop evil?  The boys are going to be abused if they collect money or not.  They ARE being abused just being on the street forced to beg.  They are being exploited.  Giving them money exploits these children further.  </p>
<p>There ARE other options to help these children.  I don&#8217;t know the situation, but there are always options to help exploited children.  Usually the problem is that the ones who can help the children do not want to take the time, energy, money or the risk to their reputations/lives to do it.</p>
<p>Fatherless children are God&#8217;s children and if we seek him in prayer, he can show us how to genuinely help them and show them his love.</p>
<p>Giving them money is NOT showing them God&#8217;s love.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/11/23/should-i-give-to-starving-kids-if-the-cash-is-going-to-terrorists/#comment-5263</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also live in a west African country and tallibe is Arabic fir disciple. In fact in our translation of the bible, Jesus'disciples are translated "tallibe"
these boys are given to imams by parents who are promised by the imams they will receive an education but often are simply a means to financing the many mosques. 
Another consideration is that with Islam, begging is a legitimate job as you are providing means for people to give alms thus fulfilling one of the pillars. Parents here also will cripple their children at birth so they can bring in money through begging.
We keep cookies in our truck and take chances to share the gospel. Giving the boys money does not, at least here, help the boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also live in a west African country and tallibe is Arabic fir disciple. In fact in our translation of the bible, Jesus&#8217;disciples are translated &#8220;tallibe&#8221;<br />
these boys are given to imams by parents who are promised by the imams they will receive an education but often are simply a means to financing the many mosques.<br />
Another consideration is that with Islam, begging is a legitimate job as you are providing means for people to give alms thus fulfilling one of the pillars. Parents here also will cripple their children at birth so they can bring in money through begging.<br />
We keep cookies in our truck and take chances to share the gospel. Giving the boys money does not, at least here, help the boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua O.</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2009/11/23/should-i-give-to-starving-kids-if-the-cash-is-going-to-terrorists/#comment-5223</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted “No” in the poll, and I do so for several reasons. To preface those remarks, however, it is obvious that the missionaries are in a tough situation, and my opinions are just that: opinions, since I am not in that scenario.

First, while we are instructed to love our enemies, we must have a correct definition of “love”. Love is not willy-nilly indiscriminate giving of material goods. Rather, God’s love, the love the Bible describes, can be defined as giving oneself even unto death for the spiritual well-being of another human. With that definition in mind, funneling resources to appease the blood-lusts of terrorists helps no one in anyway. Growing terrorism doesn’t draw the terrorists closer to Jesus Christ. If it did, I’d be all for funding them! Funding terrorism is not showing love, and if we have not love, isn’t it all for nought? So while we may be “caring” (in some strange sense of the word), we are not really loving.

Second, as Americans, we are obligated to loyalty of our nation. The current political situation of our nation aside, we are not to encourage the destruction of our own nation. That would be “aiding and abetting terrorism”, a breach in national loyalty. Provided, we’re not to follow blindly the will of Washington, but that is not what I am suggesting. All I am saying is that as citizens of the United States, we are to love our nation.

Third, we are not doing the kids any favor either. This goes back to the above definition of love. Helping them aid terrorists is not love.

Others have already voiced their wish that the missionaries could simply remove the children from that horrid situation. Would that they could! However, I will assume that such acts are impossible, and could even lead to worse punishment and even death. In some ways, this seems to be out of the missionaries’ hands. If this is international terrorism that they’re dealing with, unfortunately, there is not much that can be done. As just a 15-year-old, I’m utterly unqualified to offer suggestions to the missionaries. Further, I know very little of the situation. Can the US Embassy be contacted? How armed are the terrorists? What kind of stand can the missionaries make? These questions remain wide-open, and, depending on their answers, change my position.

As per the boys, it seems that giving them money helps them not at all. Remember the movies where the bad guys have the hostage? The bad guys always threaten to do something horrific to someone the hostage loves. More often than not, the hostage finally gives in (see Star Trek for just one example), thinking to have done a noble deed. Yet as soon as the bad guys are confident of the information, they proceed to do exactly what they’d threatened. I always groan at such scenarios—I know what the hostage will do, I and I know what the bad guys will do. The point is this: bad guys are bad guys. You can’t bargain with them. They feign sincerity at the parley table one day, and the next day are back to war. In this case, they’ll beat the boys if they don’t bring back money, and if they do, they may very well beat them anyway! And at any rate, there’s precious little chance that they’ll look on at some industrious little kid, be moved with compassion, and release him. The wicked are never satisfied, so why would we assume such in this case?

Just some thoughts. Joshua Owens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted “No” in the poll, and I do so for several reasons. To preface those remarks, however, it is obvious that the missionaries are in a tough situation, and my opinions are just that: opinions, since I am not in that scenario.</p>
<p>First, while we are instructed to love our enemies, we must have a correct definition of “love”. Love is not willy-nilly indiscriminate giving of material goods. Rather, God’s love, the love the Bible describes, can be defined as giving oneself even unto death for the spiritual well-being of another human. With that definition in mind, funneling resources to appease the blood-lusts of terrorists helps no one in anyway. Growing terrorism doesn’t draw the terrorists closer to Jesus Christ. If it did, I’d be all for funding them! Funding terrorism is not showing love, and if we have not love, isn’t it all for nought? So while we may be “caring” (in some strange sense of the word), we are not really loving.</p>
<p>Second, as Americans, we are obligated to loyalty of our nation. The current political situation of our nation aside, we are not to encourage the destruction of our own nation. That would be “aiding and abetting terrorism”, a breach in national loyalty. Provided, we’re not to follow blindly the will of Washington, but that is not what I am suggesting. All I am saying is that as citizens of the United States, we are to love our nation.</p>
<p>Third, we are not doing the kids any favor either. This goes back to the above definition of love. Helping them aid terrorists is not love.</p>
<p>Others have already voiced their wish that the missionaries could simply remove the children from that horrid situation. Would that they could! However, I will assume that such acts are impossible, and could even lead to worse punishment and even death. In some ways, this seems to be out of the missionaries’ hands. If this is international terrorism that they’re dealing with, unfortunately, there is not much that can be done. As just a 15-year-old, I’m utterly unqualified to offer suggestions to the missionaries. Further, I know very little of the situation. Can the US Embassy be contacted? How armed are the terrorists? What kind of stand can the missionaries make? These questions remain wide-open, and, depending on their answers, change my position.</p>
<p>As per the boys, it seems that giving them money helps them not at all. Remember the movies where the bad guys have the hostage? The bad guys always threaten to do something horrific to someone the hostage loves. More often than not, the hostage finally gives in (see Star Trek for just one example), thinking to have done a noble deed. Yet as soon as the bad guys are confident of the information, they proceed to do exactly what they’d threatened. I always groan at such scenarios—I know what the hostage will do, I and I know what the bad guys will do. The point is this: bad guys are bad guys. You can’t bargain with them. They feign sincerity at the parley table one day, and the next day are back to war. In this case, they’ll beat the boys if they don’t bring back money, and if they do, they may very well beat them anyway! And at any rate, there’s precious little chance that they’ll look on at some industrious little kid, be moved with compassion, and release him. The wicked are never satisfied, so why would we assume such in this case?</p>
<p>Just some thoughts. Joshua Owens</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible the writer is confused?

Their title &lt;i&gt;talibe&lt;/i&gt; doesn't necessarily mean they're linked to the &lt;i&gt;Taliban&lt;/i&gt;.

Most are just being used by corrupt Imams looking to get wealthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible the writer is confused?</p>
<p>Their title <i>talibe</i> doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean they&#8217;re linked to the <i>Taliban</i>.</p>
<p>Most are just being used by corrupt Imams looking to get wealthy.</p>
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