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		<title>By: Goodies for Monday &#171; Desiring the Better Country</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goodies for Monday &#171; Desiring the Better Country</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iPródigo &#124; O que a conversa sobre puberdade ensina sobre discipulado</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPródigo &#124; O que a conversa sobre puberdade ensina sobre discipulado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeremy @ Confessions of a Legalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy @ Confessions of a Legalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the talk with my oldest son several months ago. My efforts were met with intense rejection on his part. He did not want to have the discussion. I had to force myself to do it and force him to listen. Not physically force, but I had to be persistent to make it happen. Carrying out your analogy, maybe we don't have these other talks because we don't want to listen or the person trying to talk to us is met with fatiguing resistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the talk with my oldest son several months ago. My efforts were met with intense rejection on his part. He did not want to have the discussion. I had to force myself to do it and force him to listen. Not physically force, but I had to be persistent to make it happen. Carrying out your analogy, maybe we don&#8217;t have these other talks because we don&#8217;t want to listen or the person trying to talk to us is met with fatiguing resistance.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 22:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so agree that as a church body we have failed so many who desire and need to be truly dicipled. WE put them in a SS class and hope that they will get what they need.  Dicipleship can be costly and timely and sometime a dirty job. We are  many believers are willing pay the cost.  The result is a struggling body of Christians needing to truly be dicipled. Why dont we see that Christ was all about investing in the lives of His diciples. I'm sure there were times He would have liked to be doing something else ,but instead He sacraficially gave His life daily to investing in His diciples. He knew the importance of training these men of God so they could become mighty forces in furthering His kingdom long after He was gone. Forgive us Lord for failing you in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so agree that as a church body we have failed so many who desire and need to be truly dicipled. WE put them in a SS class and hope that they will get what they need.  Dicipleship can be costly and timely and sometime a dirty job. We are  many believers are willing pay the cost.  The result is a struggling body of Christians needing to truly be dicipled. Why dont we see that Christ was all about investing in the lives of His diciples. I&#8217;m sure there were times He would have liked to be doing something else ,but instead He sacraficially gave His life daily to investing in His diciples. He knew the importance of training these men of God so they could become mighty forces in furthering His kingdom long after He was gone. Forgive us Lord for failing you in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: FRC Blog &#187; The Social Conservative Review: March 3, 2011 Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRC Blog &#187; The Social Conservative Review: March 3, 2011 Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jessalyn @ DesiringVirtue.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessalyn @ DesiringVirtue.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kara, I appreciated what you said about not missing out on the people God has put in your life who may not be "one-on-one" mentors, but are your spiritual influences anyway. 

Coming from a wonderful church with a great discipleship program in the youth, I was very excited to find my new mentor in college and then as a young married woman. I soon found out that I would not always have "that" woman in my life, but needed to seek out advice from many older, godlier women.

Being a part of mulitigenerational groups was a huge help in naturally cultivating those relationships.

Ross, I think you have a very valid point. I know quite a few of my friends who would appreciate God-centered encouragement in their particular season of life. It would be difficult for me as a married woman (who has everything that they are longing for) to come alongside them and remind them that God is good to them as well, simply in a different way. It would be much more encouraging to have someone who has been there and is joyfully living out their calling come alongside them. Though, that doesn't mean we should ever neglect those we don't feel we have much in common with. We all have the Word of God which is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kara, I appreciated what you said about not missing out on the people God has put in your life who may not be &#8220;one-on-one&#8221; mentors, but are your spiritual influences anyway. </p>
<p>Coming from a wonderful church with a great discipleship program in the youth, I was very excited to find my new mentor in college and then as a young married woman. I soon found out that I would not always have &#8220;that&#8221; woman in my life, but needed to seek out advice from many older, godlier women.</p>
<p>Being a part of mulitigenerational groups was a huge help in naturally cultivating those relationships.</p>
<p>Ross, I think you have a very valid point. I know quite a few of my friends who would appreciate God-centered encouragement in their particular season of life. It would be difficult for me as a married woman (who has everything that they are longing for) to come alongside them and remind them that God is good to them as well, simply in a different way. It would be much more encouraging to have someone who has been there and is joyfully living out their calling come alongside them. Though, that doesn&#8217;t mean we should ever neglect those we don&#8217;t feel we have much in common with. We all have the Word of God which is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Health Care &#124; Prayer And Action</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Care &#124; Prayer And Action</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ross Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another area of generational forewarning? Older singles helping the younger singles through /that/ calling's transitions. It's not something that the marrieds can easily help with - though some of you may differ with that view - but the transitions are very real, and come with their own significant challenges.

What might I mean? Going from thinking, as late as about 40, "God has someone for me, as long as I trust in Him (or do the right thing(s)", to "No, He does not, but I will continue to serve and worship Him". Views?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another area of generational forewarning? Older singles helping the younger singles through /that/ calling&#8217;s transitions. It&#8217;s not something that the marrieds can easily help with - though some of you may differ with that view - but the transitions are very real, and come with their own significant challenges.</p>
<p>What might I mean? Going from thinking, as late as about 40, &#8220;God has someone for me, as long as I trust in Him (or do the right thing(s)&#8221;, to &#8220;No, He does not, but I will continue to serve and worship Him&#8221;. Views?</p>
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		<title>By: Kara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 04:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Perseverance, Rob Bell, Relationships &#38; Confession, Secret Church, and Discipleship &#171; Him we proclaim&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perseverance, Rob Bell, Relationships &#38; Confession, Secret Church, and Discipleship &#171; Him we proclaim&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: What I Read Online &#8211; 03/01/2011 (a.m.) &#124; Emeth Aletheia</title>
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		<dc:creator>What I Read Online &#8211; 03/01/2011 (a.m.) &#124; Emeth Aletheia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: B Cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a new believer at the age of nine, I reached out to several older men in my church to disciple me--all through my high school and college years.  The response I got was less than disappointing. When there was a response, the men who responded were eager, but completely unequipped--they didn't know the Bible!  Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a new believer at the age of nine, I reached out to several older men in my church to disciple me&#8211;all through my high school and college years.  The response I got was less than disappointing. When there was a response, the men who responded were eager, but completely unequipped&#8211;they didn&#8217;t know the Bible!  Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Kara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I SO very much agree with the previous comments and I love this post.  We used to be in an age-segregated small group and enjoyed it very much, but for the past several years have been in one where the range is early 20's to 60's.  I have been so SO thankful for the input of those a little farther down the road and also for the reminder of what it was like in those first few years when we were just starting to have kiddos.

I think another factor that contributes is the "boxing up" of the term mentoring or discipleship.  It is not always (nor should it be) limited by the notion of needing to occur on a weekly basis in a formal setting.  

Last year, I chronicled a bit about my own personal mentors and none of the scenarios is exactly alike.  I think sometimes, especially when I was younger...I was looking for some sort of official "mentor" and I then missed seeing the very people, who God had placed directly in my path.

On a literal level--just started the "birds and the bees" conversations with our oldest.  Wow.  That's awkward.
But so necessary.

http://thechuppies.blogspot.com/2010/05/thoughts-on-mentoring.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I SO very much agree with the previous comments and I love this post.  We used to be in an age-segregated small group and enjoyed it very much, but for the past several years have been in one where the range is early 20&#8217;s to 60&#8217;s.  I have been so SO thankful for the input of those a little farther down the road and also for the reminder of what it was like in those first few years when we were just starting to have kiddos.</p>
<p>I think another factor that contributes is the &#8220;boxing up&#8221; of the term mentoring or discipleship.  It is not always (nor should it be) limited by the notion of needing to occur on a weekly basis in a formal setting.  </p>
<p>Last year, I chronicled a bit about my own personal mentors and none of the scenarios is exactly alike.  I think sometimes, especially when I was younger&#8230;I was looking for some sort of official &#8220;mentor&#8221; and I then missed seeing the very people, who God had placed directly in my path.</p>
<p>On a literal level&#8211;just started the &#8220;birds and the bees&#8221; conversations with our oldest.  Wow.  That&#8217;s awkward.<br />
But so necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon K. McBride</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon K. McBride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I am so saddened over the sunday school age grouping for classes.   Age segregation is common enough in 'real life', espcially as women work away from home  and men can't take boys to work.  Families live far from 'home' often and so there's few family gatherings. I find there is almost no natural way for me as a 50something with grown kids to talk to young mothers.  I can see the 'mistakes' they are making but there's no relationship of trust or time to nurture them.  I see lots of young moms having only thier peers to counsel them and it's the blind leading the blind.  
Church as family, extended across generations, is something to strive for and with so little time in everyone's schedule, to miss the hour on Sunday where friendships might form seems so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I am so saddened over the sunday school age grouping for classes.   Age segregation is common enough in &#8216;real life&#8217;, espcially as women work away from home  and men can&#8217;t take boys to work.  Families live far from &#8216;home&#8217; often and so there&#8217;s few family gatherings. I find there is almost no natural way for me as a 50something with grown kids to talk to young mothers.  I can see the &#8216;mistakes&#8217; they are making but there&#8217;s no relationship of trust or time to nurture them.  I see lots of young moms having only thier peers to counsel them and it&#8217;s the blind leading the blind.<br />
Church as family, extended across generations, is something to strive for and with so little time in everyone&#8217;s schedule, to miss the hour on Sunday where friendships might form seems so sad.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about the need for these kinds of conversations in the church. I think one of the factors that prevents these kinds of conversations from taking place is the tendency to age-segregate the church. 

In our church, we have six or seven age-segregated Sunday School classes for married adults (young marrieds w/o kids, young marrieds w/ young kids, marrieds w/ elementary-age kids, etc.) in addition to three age-segregated classes for single adults. This means that often times people don't know very many other people in the church outside of their age bracket. And tragically, all of our "senior saints" are closeted together as if they have nothing to teach us 30-somethings. Sure, it's "natural" for people in similar life stages to congregate together, but maybe it isn't healthy in the church. In my opinion, this tendency to age-segregate the church has made it harder for older men &#38; women to teach younger men &#38; women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about the need for these kinds of conversations in the church. I think one of the factors that prevents these kinds of conversations from taking place is the tendency to age-segregate the church. </p>
<p>In our church, we have six or seven age-segregated Sunday School classes for married adults (young marrieds w/o kids, young marrieds w/ young kids, marrieds w/ elementary-age kids, etc.) in addition to three age-segregated classes for single adults. This means that often times people don&#8217;t know very many other people in the church outside of their age bracket. And tragically, all of our &#8220;senior saints&#8221; are closeted together as if they have nothing to teach us 30-somethings. Sure, it&#8217;s &#8220;natural&#8221; for people in similar life stages to congregate together, but maybe it isn&#8217;t healthy in the church. In my opinion, this tendency to age-segregate the church has made it harder for older men &amp; women to teach younger men &amp; women.</p>
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