Thanks for your insight Kim. Gently, what you stated is not traditionally the way Christians have viewed Jesus. Chrisitans believe that Jesus is the eternal Son of God, second person of the Trinity, but at the same time incarnated as a full human being. Human in all ways that we are human, but without sin.

If he was less than a full human, same “amount” of human like you and me, then he could not redeem humanity’s curse of sin and death.

Early Christian heresies said that Jesus was less than fully human, and we see this in the New Testament books of 1-3 John.

Have a great day,
Mark.

Is this really true in light of who actually voted Obama into office? If you look at the demographics (voter breakdown) is speaks the opposite of the conclusion that you draw.

“The main problem with Luter is his playing of the race card with respect to Barack Obama. He joins the crowd that apparently cannot tell the difference between opposition to his policy positions and opposition to his race.”

Are you therefore making the blanket statement that Luter is not entitled to believe that some of the opposition that Obama has faced is due to the color of his skin? What facts are you using to assume this?

Opposition to policy is one thing, and you are right to state your concerns. However, the point Luter is making is that this has never happened in recent history (blatant interruption of a sitting president while delivering a SOTU). While none of us can prove that the person who interrupted did so because of Obama’s color, it does cause one to question why it happened shortly after America elected it’s first black president. If you can’t follow that logical conclusion (right or wrong) without honestly considering that Luter may have a point then I think you may be turning a blind eye to reality.

Let’s just admit that there are people who solely dislike Obama’s policies, and some that dislike his policies and his race. That’s probably the most honest “Christian” answer to a complex problem like race relations in America.

You are attempting to revise history without using facts. The argument you make above is historically unsound and intellectually dishonest.

Name one president out of the last 5 that has been interrupted during a SOTU address because a congressman or Senator or Supreme Court judge stood in disagreement with their point of view?

Also, stating that 30 and below young whites supported Obama because they have a race-guilt conscious is historically and statistically wrong. Obama overwhelmingly dominated the young white vote in the last election and that generation (generation Y and X) have very little race-based guilt. Your argument may hold more water if it were baby-boomers and their parents that were primarily responsible for Obama’s election.

Blacks should be able to make mention of race-based issues without being labeled with the race card, just as people of any other race should be allowed. Your post above is a classic example of the abuse of terminology that often takes place in Western culture. There was know factual with which one could assume that Luter was attempting to play the race card. That’s your own creation, as viewed through own personal prism. You should state it as such rather than making blanket statements unfounded with facts.

What? You do realise that the vast majority of the slave trade in America took place before 1859 when Darwin’s book was published, right? It was published only two years prior to the American Civil War!

Such revisionism is unbecoming, and does you no favours.

Quote from PBS website:

REV. FRED LUTER: No, you wouldn’t have thought that when President Obama was elected as president of the United States of America, you would have thought that that would have ended the racial divide in our country. But unfortunately what it has shown is that in some cases it’s widened the racism in our country. There are a lot of situations just happened here not too long ago here in the Louisiana area of, there was an art project at a local school, and they have these pictures of hunting season, and there was a duck on one side, I think a deer on one side, and in the middle was a picture of President Obama with a hole in his head. And that was in a local high school. And stuff like that just shouldn’t happen. And you know I don’t agree with all the president’s politics, I don’t agree with all the decisions that he made, but one of the things that bothers me as Americans is that the disrespect that this president has had to deal with. It should not be. It should not be. You know, we’ve had presidents, you know, from Reagan to Clinton to Bush Sr. to Bush Jr., to Clinton, we don’t always agree with them. I mean, that’s just a given. But there has always been a respect for the office. This is the first time that I can remember a president was giving a speech, State of the Union speech, and someone shouts out from the gallery “you lie!” That has never happened, never with all the presidents, with all the lies that all of them have told. That has never happened. But it’s happened with this president, and so things like that reminds me that, you know, we’ve come a long way as a nation where there’s a racial issue, but we still have a long, long, long way to go. A lot of the things that this president has faced has not necessarily been because of his politics or his decisions, but unfortunately it’s just only been because of the color of his skin, and that’s what lets me know that we have a long, long way to go in America as far as racial reconciliation.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/episodes/by-topic/rev-fred-luter-on-race-in-america/10754/

I was a Sunday school teacher in the 70’s. There was a lovely Black woman in my class who happened to be pretty smart about Scripture. Soooo, when I had to be away one Sunday, I asked this Black lady to teach the class, and she did. Later, one of the women in the class, who was White, approached me, reproached me, by telling me that our church was a member of the SOUTHERN Baptist Convention. You get the drift. Anyway, my pastor backed me up.

Paradigm - describes distinct concepts or thought patterns in any scientific discipline or other epistemological context.

We can have a concept in our mind and read scripture that speaks opposite of what we believe and never see the truth. Someone along the way had described to an eager mind a different thought and it was imprinted in the mind that way. Nothing can easily change it. It is difficult for some to see the Trinity and One God as the same entity. Same goes for election and personal responsibility or the need to pray and God knowing what we need before we pray. I believe there is a spiritual concept and fleshly concept of approaching racism. Spiritually, we do not need to prove anything about racism to the world because they are just skeptics anyway. We do have something to prove (Rom. 12:1,2). It is “why” we want to elect Fred Luter; because it is God’s will to elect him.

I’m encouraged by how far the SBC has come since then.