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		<title>By: Good News for Bad Preachers &#171; A Modern Puritan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good News for Bad Preachers &#171; A Modern Puritan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#8230;und was es noch zu sagen gibt (21.08.2012): &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8230;und was es noch zu sagen gibt (21.08.2012): &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James H. Cook, Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James H. Cook, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good words, Doctor.

NEW PREACHERS -- The new pastor, after preaching his first sermon at his first church, was greeted at the front door by the Deacon Chairman. Wanting to encourage and affirm the new minister, the Deacon commented, "Preacher, that was a mighty fine sermon you preached. Yes, Sir! It is good to have you in our pulpit!"

Mustering up all the humility he could, the young preacher replied, "Aw, it was all of God."

To which the Deacon immediately and straightforwardly answered, "Son, it wasn't THAT good!"

PREACHERS WITH A FEW SERMONS UNDER THEIR BELTS -- The new pastor, with over 30 years in the ministry, had just finished preaching his first sermon at his new church. As the congregation was leaving many members where showering him with praise, admiration, and encouraging words concerning his message. 

One man though, as he shook the preacher's hand, looked the preacher straight in the face, and unmoved by all the excitement, simply and flatly commented, "Preacher, that was a warm sermon." And then, without saying another word, turned and exited the doors.

"Warm sermon?" the new pastor though to himself. "Warm?" "What in the world did he mean by 'warm?'"

Having, in all the years that he had been preaching, his sermons described by the use of every adjective imaginable, good and bad, he'd never had one called, "warm."

This bothered him. He tossed and turned in his bed that night. He couldn't get it off his mind--"warm?" "Warm?" "What did the guy mean by 'warm?!'" He couldn't sleep thinking about it. He tossed and turned some more.

Finally, about 2:30 am, he got out of his bed. Immediately he went to his study, got out his dictionary, sat at his desk, and looked up the word "warm." It said, "Not too hot."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good words, Doctor.</p>
<p>NEW PREACHERS &#8212; The new pastor, after preaching his first sermon at his first church, was greeted at the front door by the Deacon Chairman. Wanting to encourage and affirm the new minister, the Deacon commented, &#8220;Preacher, that was a mighty fine sermon you preached. Yes, Sir! It is good to have you in our pulpit!&#8221;</p>
<p>Mustering up all the humility he could, the young preacher replied, &#8220;Aw, it was all of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>To which the Deacon immediately and straightforwardly answered, &#8220;Son, it wasn&#8217;t THAT good!&#8221;</p>
<p>PREACHERS WITH A FEW SERMONS UNDER THEIR BELTS &#8212; The new pastor, with over 30 years in the ministry, had just finished preaching his first sermon at his new church. As the congregation was leaving many members where showering him with praise, admiration, and encouraging words concerning his message. </p>
<p>One man though, as he shook the preacher&#8217;s hand, looked the preacher straight in the face, and unmoved by all the excitement, simply and flatly commented, &#8220;Preacher, that was a warm sermon.&#8221; And then, without saying another word, turned and exited the doors.</p>
<p>&#8220;Warm sermon?&#8221; the new pastor though to himself. &#8220;Warm?&#8221; &#8220;What in the world did he mean by &#8216;warm?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Having, in all the years that he had been preaching, his sermons described by the use of every adjective imaginable, good and bad, he&#8217;d never had one called, &#8220;warm.&#8221;</p>
<p>This bothered him. He tossed and turned in his bed that night. He couldn&#8217;t get it off his mind&#8211;&#8221;warm?&#8221; &#8220;Warm?&#8221; &#8220;What did the guy mean by &#8216;warm?!&#8217;&#8221; He couldn&#8217;t sleep thinking about it. He tossed and turned some more.</p>
<p>Finally, about 2:30 am, he got out of his bed. Immediately he went to his study, got out his dictionary, sat at his desk, and looked up the word &#8220;warm.&#8221; It said, &#8220;Not too hot.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Links to Get Your Week Going &#124; My World</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moore on Good news for bad preachers. This is so true, my first several years of preaching were pretty bad. Katie endured a lot of bad [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Saturday Shout-Outs: Sad News, &#38; Ministry Links &#124; H.B. Charles Jr.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 13:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: This and That 08-18-12 &#171; The Thompsonian Times</title>
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		<dc:creator>This and That 08-18-12 &#171; The Thompsonian Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 13:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Good News for Bad Preachers &#8211; If you think your first few sermons are great, you’re probably self-deceived. If the folks in your home church think your first few sermons are great, it’s probably because they love you and they’re proud of you. If it’s a good, supportive church there’s as much objectivity there as a grandparent evaluating the “I Love You Grandma” artwork handed to them by the five year-old in their family. &#8211; Russell Moore [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Steynor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Steynor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 07:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, and good post. Though I would add a footnote, and that is that it is essential we ask the question, 'has this person been given the gift of preaching?' really early on. Training can only fan and develop a gift from God that is already there. Crudely speaking, if someone have been gifted by God it is possible to train them from a 6/10 preacher to be a 9/10 preacher. If someone has not been gifted by God, you might be able to bump them up through training from 2/10 to 6/10, but rarely further.

One of the saddest things to see in church is where somebody is ministering in any position in the church, where it is obvious they don't have a gifting for it, and no-one was loving enough to tell them that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, and good post. Though I would add a footnote, and that is that it is essential we ask the question, &#8216;has this person been given the gift of preaching?&#8217; really early on. Training can only fan and develop a gift from God that is already there. Crudely speaking, if someone have been gifted by God it is possible to train them from a 6/10 preacher to be a 9/10 preacher. If someone has not been gifted by God, you might be able to bump them up through training from 2/10 to 6/10, but rarely further.</p>
<p>One of the saddest things to see in church is where somebody is ministering in any position in the church, where it is obvious they don&#8217;t have a gifting for it, and no-one was loving enough to tell them that.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Hammons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Hammons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS has been pointed out above, more often than not, the congregation is the one ministering to the new minister more than the other way around. We need to be open to young men using their gifts, even when they don't use them well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS has been pointed out above, more often than not, the congregation is the one ministering to the new minister more than the other way around. We need to be open to young men using their gifts, even when they don&#8217;t use them well.</p>
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		<title>By: Links I Like &#124; Blogging Theologically &#124; Jesus, Books, Culture, &#38; Theology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links I Like &#124; Blogging Theologically &#124; Jesus, Books, Culture, &#38; Theology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By what standard is your friend using to measure his preaching as "bad" or "mediocre"?  Is it because it doesn't possess the oratorical tonal quality of a particular megachurch pastor he admires?  Is he not able to reproduce the cadences of old time Southern preachers?  If his sermon is Biblical, and it was well prepared in that he was led by the spirit during preparation, and had a sense of what his congregation needed to hear (notice I said needed, not wanted), regardless of the style or oratorical quality, I'd say it was a good sermon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By what standard is your friend using to measure his preaching as &#8220;bad&#8221; or &#8220;mediocre&#8221;?  Is it because it doesn&#8217;t possess the oratorical tonal quality of a particular megachurch pastor he admires?  Is he not able to reproduce the cadences of old time Southern preachers?  If his sermon is Biblical, and it was well prepared in that he was led by the spirit during preparation, and had a sense of what his congregation needed to hear (notice I said needed, not wanted), regardless of the style or oratorical quality, I&#8217;d say it was a good sermon.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post, Dr. Moore. This is a wonderful bit of encouragement to me, particularly in light of preaching a fairly not-awesome sermon recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post, Dr. Moore. This is a wonderful bit of encouragement to me, particularly in light of preaching a fairly not-awesome sermon recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh H.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@A.J., I couldn't agree more with you on your point about nursing homes.  I preached some pretty dreadful and poorly conceived messages at nursing homes, but thankfully many of the folks there were asleep, haha.)  I do remember very vividly when one woman stood from her wheelchair, held her hands to heaven, and loudly began praying for God to take her home.
I wasn't sure if that was because my message was so good or so awful.
Either way, it was a wonderful year of ministering to some old saints as they entered the twilight of their lives, and I wouldn't trade the experience for about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@A.J., I couldn&#8217;t agree more with you on your point about nursing homes.  I preached some pretty dreadful and poorly conceived messages at nursing homes, but thankfully many of the folks there were asleep, haha.)  I do remember very vividly when one woman stood from her wheelchair, held her hands to heaven, and loudly began praying for God to take her home.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t sure if that was because my message was so good or so awful.<br />
Either way, it was a wonderful year of ministering to some old saints as they entered the twilight of their lives, and I wouldn&#8217;t trade the experience for about anything.</p>
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		<title>By: SBTS Southern Blogs &#187; Good News for Bad Preachers</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBTS Southern Blogs &#187; Good News for Bad Preachers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matthew Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this, Dr. Moore.  We have a number of young (and not so young) aspiring ministers who have come into our church.  I will put this in our training manuals here in order to encourage them to preach but also to persist from these initial stages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this, Dr. Moore.  We have a number of young (and not so young) aspiring ministers who have come into our church.  I will put this in our training manuals here in order to encourage them to preach but also to persist from these initial stages.</p>
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		<title>By: Are Your Sermons Improving?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are Your Sermons Improving?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Russel D. Moore has an interesting article up on his website &#8220;Moore To The Point.&#8221; Somebody contacted Pastor Moore fearful of poor preaching. The individual believed that he was preaching mediocre sermons and was not improving. You can find that article here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bits &#38; Pieces (8/15/12) &#124; Better Things Ahead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bits &#38; Pieces (8/15/12) &#124; Better Things Ahead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Good News for Bad Preachers - Although written for those who preach, this post contains an important truth for anyone involved in ministry. You won&#8217;t hit a home run out of the park from the beginning, but if you have people who are honest with you enough to help you improve, that is a good thing. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Check out &#124; HeadHeartHand Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Check out &#124; HeadHeartHand Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Good news for bad preachers Russell Moore on why it&#8217;s better to start off as a really bad preacher rather than as a mediocre one. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ross Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a reasonably-experienced "lay preacher", I can say there is, really, no substitute for practice. Being a good preacher or teacher is no different to being a good musician; you need a certain natural talent, true, but the rest comes from a lot of hard work and the occasional botched piece of work.

The main failing I've noticed with people starting out is very simple: a lack of structure. The other failing: trying to imitate others, and not looking for your own "voice", or way of doing things, as a preacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a reasonably-experienced &#8220;lay preacher&#8221;, I can say there is, really, no substitute for practice. Being a good preacher or teacher is no different to being a good musician; you need a certain natural talent, true, but the rest comes from a lot of hard work and the occasional botched piece of work.</p>
<p>The main failing I&#8217;ve noticed with people starting out is very simple: a lack of structure. The other failing: trying to imitate others, and not looking for your own &#8220;voice&#8221;, or way of doing things, as a preacher.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also imagine that most preachers who managed something of reasonable competence and sufficiency the 'first time' they stepped into the pulpit did so because they had already honed some of those skills and had some of the rough edges sanded off in other appropriate environments. As A.J. hinted above, men seeking to develop a preaching gift should not consider themselves above going to the very old or the very young - such ministries as those in nursing homes and Sunday Schools are a smithy in which we can start to forge the tools of the trade. Gifted men might forge better tools more quickly, but they still learn. Trying to explain the truth to those whose faculties are developing or declining will help us be plain and pointed. Besides, speaking of eternal things to those at the start of life and on the brink of death will not only develop the external gifts but also the sense of spiritual realities under which every preacher must labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also imagine that most preachers who managed something of reasonable competence and sufficiency the &#8216;first time&#8217; they stepped into the pulpit did so because they had already honed some of those skills and had some of the rough edges sanded off in other appropriate environments. As A.J. hinted above, men seeking to develop a preaching gift should not consider themselves above going to the very old or the very young - such ministries as those in nursing homes and Sunday Schools are a smithy in which we can start to forge the tools of the trade. Gifted men might forge better tools more quickly, but they still learn. Trying to explain the truth to those whose faculties are developing or declining will help us be plain and pointed. Besides, speaking of eternal things to those at the start of life and on the brink of death will not only develop the external gifts but also the sense of spiritual realities under which every preacher must labour.</p>
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		<title>By: Good news for bad (and young) preachers &#171; The Wanderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good news for bad (and young) preachers &#171; The Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ryan Perz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Perz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.
I agree with the comment that I need to apologize to all who heard my first sermon.  
If the average pastor has a 30-40 years in the pulpit then that is between 1500-2000 sermons.  That helps put things into perspective and leaves much room to improve on those bad sermons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.<br />
I agree with the comment that I need to apologize to all who heard my first sermon.<br />
If the average pastor has a 30-40 years in the pulpit then that is between 1500-2000 sermons.  That helps put things into perspective and leaves much room to improve on those bad sermons.</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy A. Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2012/08/14/good-news-for-bad-preachers/#comment-199313</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy A. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good word doc! i can remember my really bad sermon days, uuggghhh, we all have them!! young preachers need to hear this over and over. 

another thing we need to hear is that we must remember that the ministry of preaching is a ministry of grace and the Holy Spirit..."not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit..." God graciously chooses to use us by His gift of the Holy Spirit to minister his grace to others and He WILL use us if we depend on Him, focus on exalting Christ, and focus our sermons on the intent of the text as well as the deep human needs that the truths of the text speak to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good word doc! i can remember my really bad sermon days, uuggghhh, we all have them!! young preachers need to hear this over and over. </p>
<p>another thing we need to hear is that we must remember that the ministry of preaching is a ministry of grace and the Holy Spirit&#8230;&#8221;not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit&#8230;&#8221; God graciously chooses to use us by His gift of the Holy Spirit to minister his grace to others and He WILL use us if we depend on Him, focus on exalting Christ, and focus our sermons on the intent of the text as well as the deep human needs that the truths of the text speak to.</p>
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		<title>By: What I Read Online &#8211; 08/15/2012 (a.m.) &#124; Emeth Aletheia</title>
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		<dc:creator>What I Read Online &#8211; 08/15/2012 (a.m.) &#124; Emeth Aletheia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 00:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moore to the Point – Good News for Bad Preachers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2012/08/14/good-news-for-bad-preachers/#comment-199264</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.

If the gospel is there in some way, even poorly preached, the Holy Spirit can use those words for His purposes.

And then try again. Having the gospel be the center, and not the law.

The law kills, the gospel makes alive in Christ.

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I would say that a bad sermon is one where Jesus doesn't even show up. But instead Moses does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.</p>
<p>If the gospel is there in some way, even poorly preached, the Holy Spirit can use those words for His purposes.</p>
<p>And then try again. Having the gospel be the center, and not the law.</p>
<p>The law kills, the gospel makes alive in Christ.</p>
<p>____</p>
<p>I would say that a bad sermon is one where Jesus doesn&#8217;t even show up. But instead Moses does.</p>
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		<title>By: Church Chair Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2012/08/14/good-news-for-bad-preachers/#comment-199262</link>
		<dc:creator>Church Chair Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often said that I need to go back and apologize to those folks in my first church!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often said that I need to go back and apologize to those folks in my first church!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. James Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2012/08/14/good-news-for-bad-preachers/#comment-199259</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. James Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Moore,
Thanks for the interesting article. My comment is concerning what is it that makes a bad or a great sermon and what makes a poor or a great preacher. Often we look at the immediate results, the amount of good comments, the amount of initial responses. I would propose a radical idea. "There is no such thing as a great sermon or a great preacher. There are only specific times when God the Holy Spirit chooses to work in someone's ministry for the furtherance of His work - and this has nothing to do with the delivery or the place or the person - but with His choice to use His truth in His way."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Moore,<br />
Thanks for the interesting article. My comment is concerning what is it that makes a bad or a great sermon and what makes a poor or a great preacher. Often we look at the immediate results, the amount of good comments, the amount of initial responses. I would propose a radical idea. &#8220;There is no such thing as a great sermon or a great preacher. There are only specific times when God the Holy Spirit chooses to work in someone&#8217;s ministry for the furtherance of His work - and this has nothing to do with the delivery or the place or the person - but with His choice to use His truth in His way.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2012/08/14/good-news-for-bad-preachers/#comment-199258</link>
		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for this, Dr. Moore.  Oftentimes as young preachers, we compare ourselves to the likes of John Piper, David Platt, Russell Moore, Mark Driscoll, Albert Mohler, etc., and conclude that we are horrible communicators.  What we don't realize is that these great preachers have been critiquing their trade for a number of years, and there is a strong possibility that one will not be able to find all of their (bad) early sermons on their websites' archives.

I was thankful to be a part of a church in Louisville while I was going to seminary which allowed me to stand behind the pulpit and have a few disasters before I was kicked out of the nest and expected to fly.  I was also thankful for one of the local nursing homes which allowed me to come and preach sometimes as often as four Sundays a month while I was going to seminary.  This gave me plenty of opportunities to get into the rhythm of preparing and delivering sermons long before I ever stood behind "my" pulpit.

To any seminary student out there who complains that they don't get enough opportunities to preach, I will heretofore extend to you a challenge: offer yourself up to nursing homes! They are always looking for ministers to give their residents some love, and it is very good practical experience.  You won't get paid.  You won't get showered with a lot of praise.  85% of your audience will be asleep by the time you read your text, and oftentimes those who are awake will cause some kind of distraction (mostly the nursing home staff).  However, you WILL find out if you are really called into the preaching ministry, because there is no chance of fortune, fame, peer approval, good grades, or anything like that.  I would go so far as to say that if you can't take joy in preaching in a setting like a nursing home, then you are preaching for the wrong reasons, and you will not be able to stay in the pulpit through the pressures of pastoral ministry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this, Dr. Moore.  Oftentimes as young preachers, we compare ourselves to the likes of John Piper, David Platt, Russell Moore, Mark Driscoll, Albert Mohler, etc., and conclude that we are horrible communicators.  What we don&#8217;t realize is that these great preachers have been critiquing their trade for a number of years, and there is a strong possibility that one will not be able to find all of their (bad) early sermons on their websites&#8217; archives.</p>
<p>I was thankful to be a part of a church in Louisville while I was going to seminary which allowed me to stand behind the pulpit and have a few disasters before I was kicked out of the nest and expected to fly.  I was also thankful for one of the local nursing homes which allowed me to come and preach sometimes as often as four Sundays a month while I was going to seminary.  This gave me plenty of opportunities to get into the rhythm of preparing and delivering sermons long before I ever stood behind &#8220;my&#8221; pulpit.</p>
<p>To any seminary student out there who complains that they don&#8217;t get enough opportunities to preach, I will heretofore extend to you a challenge: offer yourself up to nursing homes! They are always looking for ministers to give their residents some love, and it is very good practical experience.  You won&#8217;t get paid.  You won&#8217;t get showered with a lot of praise.  85% of your audience will be asleep by the time you read your text, and oftentimes those who are awake will cause some kind of distraction (mostly the nursing home staff).  However, you WILL find out if you are really called into the preaching ministry, because there is no chance of fortune, fame, peer approval, good grades, or anything like that.  I would go so far as to say that if you can&#8217;t take joy in preaching in a setting like a nursing home, then you are preaching for the wrong reasons, and you will not be able to stay in the pulpit through the pressures of pastoral ministry.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Winters</title>
		<link>http://www.russellmoore.com/2012/08/14/good-news-for-bad-preachers/#comment-199253</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the first sermon I ever preached outside my home church.  It was part of Union University's Ministerial Nights program, where students could voluntarily be assigned Sunday evening preaching opportunities in rural churches across the region.  I was a busy college student, so I didn't put a lot of time into the preparation.  I just assumed I knew what the passage meant (something from Luke, I think).  I probably had a basic outline on one sheet of paper.

Going into that preaching date and throughout my first few sermon points, I thoroughly believed that I was going to be a spiritual gift to the congregation.  I thought they were fortunate to have me bless them with my presence and giftings.  But I began to stumble over my words and my mind drew blanks about what to say.  Nobody got saved.  Nobody wept.  

Afterward, the kind old folks in that church just encouraged me and told me how glad they were to have me preach for them.  I think some lady gave me a loaf of bread she had baked.  They were kind enough to also video tape my message, and when I watched myself for the first time, I realized how bad my delivery really was and how very little of substance I actually had to say.  I also went on for too long without actually making a point.  I couldn't understand why the congregation was so nice to me after the service.  At that point, I started to doubt whether I was really cut out for the ministry.

Looking back over 10 years later, I realize what a great learning opportunity that was for me mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.  That congregation wasn't lucky to have me there.  It turns out that I was the one who blessed to be in their presence and to receive their listening mercies and encouragement.  Now, that realization is constantly on my mind every time I get up to preach behind the pulpit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the first sermon I ever preached outside my home church.  It was part of Union University&#8217;s Ministerial Nights program, where students could voluntarily be assigned Sunday evening preaching opportunities in rural churches across the region.  I was a busy college student, so I didn&#8217;t put a lot of time into the preparation.  I just assumed I knew what the passage meant (something from Luke, I think).  I probably had a basic outline on one sheet of paper.</p>
<p>Going into that preaching date and throughout my first few sermon points, I thoroughly believed that I was going to be a spiritual gift to the congregation.  I thought they were fortunate to have me bless them with my presence and giftings.  But I began to stumble over my words and my mind drew blanks about what to say.  Nobody got saved.  Nobody wept.  </p>
<p>Afterward, the kind old folks in that church just encouraged me and told me how glad they were to have me preach for them.  I think some lady gave me a loaf of bread she had baked.  They were kind enough to also video tape my message, and when I watched myself for the first time, I realized how bad my delivery really was and how very little of substance I actually had to say.  I also went on for too long without actually making a point.  I couldn&#8217;t understand why the congregation was so nice to me after the service.  At that point, I started to doubt whether I was really cut out for the ministry.</p>
<p>Looking back over 10 years later, I realize what a great learning opportunity that was for me mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.  That congregation wasn&#8217;t lucky to have me there.  It turns out that I was the one who blessed to be in their presence and to receive their listening mercies and encouragement.  Now, that realization is constantly on my mind every time I get up to preach behind the pulpit.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Prada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Prada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great. Thank you.</description>
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