I think, Tony, that after 40 years, we have had plenty of time to reason this out. Mankind, sinful as he is, can never reason his way to righteousness. Reason, as Luther once said, is a harlot, and will always prostitute herself for what she desires. We will change, and America will repent of her murderous ways, if and when God is pleased to grant us repentance. Possibly, it will take a national calamity, or should I say further national calamities, to ignite the shock of recognition and a proper sense of horror at the evil we have done. In a billion years, reason could never do this. I still have hope that the great God of judgment and mercy may.

Here’s what I’m referring to;

While Gov. Romney was clearly no one’s perfect candidate, he did present a clear alternative to Pres. Obama on the matter of abortion. And, for several reasons, this was a watershed election in attempts toward a more originalist Supreme Court. Now, with the most pro-abortion President in our nation’s history, that opportunity has likely escaped us for 1-2 generations (do some quick math on the number of children that will be slaughtered in that time).

In the video that I linked to, you did not raise this alarm and appeared to suggest that Romney couldn’t be counted on on this issue (as opposed to the alternative?) regardless of the repeated statements by Gov. Romney that his appointees would of the Robert Bork model.

Yet, in this blog posting, you state that we struggle to find ways to protect the unborn.

As an influence on a number of conservative evangelicals in the nation, you had an opportunity to make it very clear as to the urgency of this recent election on the issue of protecting the unborn…and the reason that you did not escapes me. The election of 2012 had stakes similar to that of the election of 1860. The primary difference between the two elections concerns the clarity of urgency and unity by evangelicals. In 1860, among evangelicals who saw abolition of slavery as important, there was clarity. In 2012, among evangelicals who see the abolition of abortion as important, there was neither clarity nor unity.

Dr. Mohler was right. The 2012 election was a disaster for religious conservatives. But also in a way that he did not mention: it was a disaster for the credibility for the leaders of religious conservatives.

Thank you so much for writing this. I agree wholeheartedly. I think the whole perception of reproduction in our churches is messed up.

My wife and I have four children, and we have had them in rather rapid succession. Our oldest is 6 and our youngest is 8 months. I have endured icy stares from people who think we should not have this many children. I have endured backhanded comments that suggest my wife cannot take care of our children or anymore for that matter. I never expected this kind of treatment from “Christian” people, but it exists, and I think in some cases discourages good young couples from having more children. The “don’t you know how to keep that from happening” comments are cute at first, but the 50th comment can be irritating.

We also have pastors who preach hypocritically about anti-abortion, but cannot preach a word about reproduction and the value of having children. They just want to gripe about abortion. All this to say, I believe, if we want to win the abortion debate, we need to start with winning the reproduction debate.

And you know what else, it’s only a matter of time until some scientist in the US or foreign country discovers some medical knowledge using stem cells from aborted babies. The fact that this is evil doesn’t mean it’s not effective. After that happens, we’ll not only be anti-woman for opposing abortion, we’ll be anti-medicine.

In other words, the research includes people are inherently racist (i.e. predisposed to act less altruistically toward those of a different ethnicity) and overall societal altruism (which makes everything work better) will break down in the presence of too ethnically diverse a population.

How does this jive with the heavy waves of immigration the U.S. has experienced in the past? Or, with countries like Canada and Australia that are experiencing higher net migration rates than the U.S. and still seem to be on firm social and fiscal footing? (With much of Canada’s immigration coming from Asia.)

Yes, you’re right that perhaps “Western nations” or cultures may not survive, but at least the Church will. As Timothy Tennent has said, immigrants are probably the biggest hope for the American Church. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHx95cuXpUE. Cultures, like Kingdoms, rise and fall, but Christ’s church will stand forever.

Jack

http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2009/10/edward-abbey-on-immigration.html

Western nations can survive abortion (population trends can reverse) but they cannot survive genetic replacement:

http://tinyurl.com/bj9hnx4

God bless!

Sam

All in all, if this battle of ideas is to be won by the pro-life side it will be by people who can talk and act reasonably on the topic.

Tony Roseman