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Tech Surveillance and Genocide with Nury Turkel

World news is hard to watch. It’s full of horror and tragedy, much of which is happening thousands and thousands of miles away. While these stories are difficult to consume, they can be easy to ignore as we imagine ourselves untouched by their devastation. But on this episode of The Russell Moore Show, human rights attorney Nury Turkel encourages Christians to understand the ways that they are, in fact, affected by issues like foreign policy and human rights violations across the ocean.

Turkel, whose new memoir is titled No Escape: The True Story of China’s Genocide of the Uyghurs, serves on the US Commission on International Religious Freedom. Born in a Chinese reeducation camp in the fall of 1970, Turkel is an expert on the plight of the Uyghur people who continue to face tremendous oppression from the Chinese Communist Party, as well as the influence of China on the United States.

On this episode, Turkel explains the factors at play in the modern-day genocide of the Uyghur people. He and Moore discuss the ways that America interacts with China, Chinese governmental resistance to Western ideology and religion, and the exploitation of the Uyghur people for products Americans consume. They discuss technology, artificial intelligence, and TikTok developments with serious ethical and mental health implications. And they share urgent, concrete opportunities to stand up against human rights abuses.

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Executive Producers: Erik Petrik, Russell Moore, and Mike Cosper

Host: Russell Moore

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Audio engineering by Dan Phelps

Video producer: Abby Egan

Theme Song: “Dusty Delta Day” by Lennon Hutton

Only when we see how lost we are, we can find our way again. Only when we bury what’s dead can we experience life again. Only when we lose our religion can we be amazed by grace again.


About Russell Moore

Russell Moore is Editor in Chief of Christianity Today and is the author of the forthcoming book Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America (Penguin Random House).